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Westminster - Yesterdays debate on drug testing at work

Don Barnard

Press Release

Thursday 15 Jan 2004

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Legalise Cannabis Alliance, News Bulletin:

4/04: Westminster - Yesterdays debate on drug testing at work .

DRUG TEST MP's !!!!

Paul Flynn (Newport, West) (Lab) said: " ..We must consider realistically
the position that we are in. We work in this workplace, in which prodigious
quantities of drugs that impair our judgments and our
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reactions can be used. We must examine the science, consider the matter
realistically and, if any changes in the law are likely to occur, we must
start by imposing any required restrictions in this building."

Minutes of Westminster debate on drug testing at work [See Eds. notes]

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Editors notes:

Paul Flynn (Newport, West) (Lab):

From debate on drug testing at work in Westminster hall yesterday. Read it
all here:

Paul Flynn (Newport, West) (Lab): I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member
for Crawley (Laura Moffatt), who has been a distinguished vice-chairman of
the all-party group on drugs misuse for many years and served it extremely
well. The growing consensus in this debate is welcome. If we are going to
impose on the country new rules about drug testing at work, we should start
in this building and lead by example. There will be a programme tomorrow
night on television showing a case in which a former Minister, in a
celebrated occasion that is recorded in his diaries, was not drunk but was
over-tired as a newt while addressing the House from the Treasury Bench.
That was the late Alan Clark, who describes how he drank before addressing
the House.

We must introduce some reality, as my hon. Friend suggested, on the real
threat of drugs, and how drivers are impaired on the road. The major cause
of drivers' impairment is exhaustion. Next is impairment from medicinal
drugs; then alcohol; then illegal drugs. I gained a number of impressions
from attending every sitting of the all-party group on drugs misuse and
chairing one or two of those sittings. One of those

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impressions was that the drive towards more workplace testing comes not
from those who seek improvements in safety but from commercefrom those who
stand to make a great deal of money out of selling the testing kits. In
other countries, testing has become a hugely profitable business, because
the kits are very expensive. Let us not be deceived. We all share the
objective of reducing the number of accidents caused by drug use, but the
figures that we considered and the evidence that emerged when we
cross-examined witnesses produced a strange situation.

Amphetamines were mentioned. For a long time, amphetamines were used to
train jet pilots, because they have the beneficial effect of increasing the
concentration of those who are piloting planes or driving cars. However,
they also have a bad effect: while increasing concentration on the task in
hand, they increase concentration on everything elseall the peripheral
matters and distractionsso they are detrimental to safety.

As we know, alcohol has an effect of impairment similar to that of
cannabis. However, studies carried out in Germany and Canada on whether
there is a link between the use of those drugs and the likelihood of being
involved in an accident show that there is not. The figures with which the
all-party group was presented showed that there would be an increase from 3
to 18 per cent. in the number of people involved in road traffic accidents
who had been taking drugs. However, in every case, that precisely mirrored
the increase in the use of those drugs in society. There should have been a
greater increase in accidents among drug takers than is shown in the
figures, and there was not.

Everyone would agree that people should be discouraged from driving while
impaired by the influence of illegal drugs. However, the odd fact is that
cannabis makes people more fearful. They become defensive and tend to drive
in a way that is less aggressive. Two of the reports showed that, as a
result, those who were taking cannabis were less likely to be involved in
an accident. We will not extrapolate from that that people should use
cannabis or any other drug under those circumstances.

The only way to test for drugsthe point has been made clearly this
morningis on the basis of impairment. However, that can give rise to other
problemsI have personal experience of that. I remember being accused by a
policeman of staggering when I got out of a car. I was examined, and had to
explain that that is the way in which I normally walk. Many others would
find it difficult, even in the best of circumstances, to perform the
impairment tests.

I am reminded of a story told by my father, who fought in the first world
war. He told me that on the Somme they could not get strawberry jam, but
could get alcohol and cigarettes in unlimited quantities. My father died of
lung cancer at the age of 43, and another member of his family, who also
served on the Somme, was an alcoholic for life. Governments have often used
drugs in that waydrugs were used deliberately on both sides in the great
war. The great war would probably have stopped at Christmas on the first
anniversary if huge quantities of alcohol had not been used.

We must consider realistically the position that we are in. We work in this
workplace, in which prodigious quantities of drugs that impair our
judgments and our

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reactions can be used. We must examine the science, consider the matter
realistically and, if any changes in the law are likely to occur, we must
start by imposing any required restrictions in this building.



 

 

 

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